Probing the Performance of Paychex (PAYX)
August 30, 2008
Paychex (PAYX), with $2B in 2007 revenues, is considered a medium-sized company based on NAIC/BI criteria. The company provides payroll, accounting, and related services to more than 570,000 businesses throughout the U.S., according to Value Line, most of which are small and medium size firms. PAYX operates 100 offices in 36 states and Washington, D.C.
BobM saw growth rates for EPS and Pre-Tax Profits declining for 9 consecutive quarters (8 for Sales) and wouldn’t buy the stock at this time even though his analysis signaled a strong SSG Buy. VL also recognized that sales growth has become “sluggish” and pointed out that the Payroll Services Unit, which accounts for 70% of revenue, has been hurt by rising unemployment and a competitive price environment.
Here’s a comparison of BobM’s SSG with Take Stock and with two of mine (one with S&P data and the other with Hemscott data, but both with the same judgments). In the discussion that follows, I’ll also compare PAYX to industry data in order to shed some perspective on its slowing growth.
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Paychex (PAYX) |
BobM |
Armin-1 |
Armin-2 |
Take Stock |
|
Date |
8-19-08 |
8-26-08 |
8-26-08 |
8-26-08 |
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Data |
S&P |
S&P |
Hemscott |
Hemscott |
|
Price |
$34.40 |
$34.79 |
same |
$34.05 |
|
52 wk High & Low Price |
$45.65 & $30.09 |
$45.65 & $30.09 |
same |
n/a |
|
|
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|
Project Growth From |
last quarter |
last quarter |
same |
unknown |
|
Sales Growth |
09.00% |
10.00% |
same |
9.40% |
|
EPS Growth |
10.00% |
12.00% |
same |
9.40% initial 7.86% final |
|
High PE |
30.0 |
25.0 (2003 & 2004 out = 32.8) |
same |
30.0 |
|
High Price |
$75.30 |
$68.80 |
same |
$68.60 |
|
Value Line Estimated High Price = $55-75 as of 8-22-08 |
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|
Low PE |
19.0 |
17.9 (2003 & 2004 out = 22.1) |
same |
20.1 |
|
Low Price |
$29.80 |
$24.00 (80% of 53 week low) |
same |
$34.05 (current price) |
|
Upside/Down |
8.9 |
3.2 |
same |
impossible to calculate |
|
Total Return |
18.5% |
16.8% |
same |
15.9% |
|
|
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|
SSG Buy Under |
n/a |
$35.20 |
same |
$40.04 |
|
RV/PRV (2 outs) |
78.2/71.1 |
81.9/73.0 |
81.8/73.1 |
n/a |
|
RV/PRV (no outs) |
n/a |
71.2/63.4 |
69.8/62.4 |
n/a |
|
Quality |
n/a |
A+ |
not rated |
5.8 (acceptable) |
|
|
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|
PTPM – 5 yr ave
|
39.1% trend up |
39.1% trend up |
38.7% trend up |
38.7% trend n/a |
|
ROE – 5 yr ave End Equity |
31.4% trend dn |
31.2% trend up |
30.6% trend up |
n/a |
|
ROE – 5 yr ave Start Equity |
n/a |
31.4% trend dn |
30.7% trend even |
30.7% trend n/a |
|
Debt to Equity– 5 yr ave |
n/a |
-0- trend even |
-0- trend even |
n/a |
Discussion:
- Note that S&P and Hemscott data produce almost exactly the same results.
- When I did my SSGs, the analysts were estimating long-term EPS around 14% on average with three sets of analysts (FactSet CallStreet, First Call and S&P) high at 15.00% and VL low at 12.50%; Zacks was 12.99%, Reuters via Morningstar was 13.40%, and the average of the six estimates less one Standard Deviation was 12.99% or 13% rounded. I estimated EPS at 12.00% for my SSG while Bob used 10.00%.
- High & Low PEs have fallen for 5 consecutive years, from 47.1 Hi PE & 33.0 Lo PE in 2003 to 30.1 Hi & 19.3 Lo in 2007. So, I opted to severely reduce my Forecast PEs to 25.0 Hi & 17.9 Lo. Forecasting declining trends is, I believe, mostly guesswork.
- Take Stock sometimes uses the current price as its low price, which makes no sense to me, and makes it impossible to calculate an implied Upside-Downside Ratio.
- Take Stock requires a 3.4 minimum Quality Rating, with 6.7 desired and 10.0 max. Take Stock gave PAYX a 5.8 which is acceptable, above the minimum and below the desired. S&P gave PAYX a Quality Rating of A+ which is the highest out of its 8 ratings.
- PAYX’s declining growth rates still look pretty good compared to its industry:
** Reuters.com reveals that PAYX’s Pre-Tax Profit Margin is substantially better than its Industry Average for the Trailing Twelve Months (41.37% compared to 1.04%) and for the last 5 years (39.07% compared to 10.76%). Reuters places PAYX in the Commercial & Services Industry.
** MoneyMSN.com puts PAYX in a different industry, the Staffing and Outsourcing Industry. According to MSN, the company’s PTPM is also substantially better than its Industry Average for the last year (41.40% compared to 20.8%) and for the last 5 years (39.10% compared to 19.40%).
** Reuters also shows that PAYX exceeds its Industry Average in terms of five growth rates: TTM Sales compared to TTM Sales one year ago (9.51% vs 1.97%); 5 year Sales Growth (13.46% vs 7.34%); EPS Most Recent Quarter compared to Year Ago Quarter (18.86% vs -9.14%); and 5 year EPS Growth (14.97% vs 12.13%).
** The picture is mixed at MSN which puts PAYX in a different industry, the Staffing and Outsourcing Industry. The company exceeds its industry average in terms of short- and long-term Net Income, but lags in two of the other four reported growth rates: Current Quarterly Sales compared to Year Ago Quarter (6.50% vs 8.40%) and 5 year Sales Growth (14.45% vs 36.35%).
- One of my favorite investment resources is Wikinvest which reports that PAYX retained a record 80% of its customers in 2007, and the main reason for the 20% loss was that those firms went out of business entirely. When unemployment rises, firms don’t need to process as many paychecks and, as a result, there is less demand for PAYX’s services. In May 2008, U.S. unemployment experienced its largest one-month increase in 20 years.
- When the economy recovers, the potential demand for PAYX services is tremendous. Wikinvest explained that 99% of the 7.9M businesses in the U.S. have less than 100 employees and therefore fall into PAYX’s target market. Of those, only 15-20% are now served by a payroll processing firm which leaves “enormous” potential for growth.
- The market has noticed PAYX’s slowing growth and it is now trading close to its 52 week low. Do you think this a buying opportunity for a high-quality company or a time to wait-and-see? Leave a comment and let me know.
- Armin
Pondering POT (Potash Corp)
August 28, 2008
Potash Corp of Saskatchewan (POT) experienced an 82% EPS growth rate over the last 5 years and 87% last year. What’s more, the S&P Stock Report expects the company to report record earnings in 2009 for the sixth consecutive year. Value Line says it is the world’s largest integrated fertilizer company with potash accounting for 49% of 2007 profits, nitrogen 28%, and phosphate 23%.
HenriR’s club bought POT in 2005 at $27.00 and it’s risen to about $170 per share, a terrific gain. It now comprises almost 19% of their 20 stock portfolio and she has proposed that the club sell some or all of the stock.
Here’s a comparison of Henri R’s SSG with Take Stock and with two SSGs of mine (both with the same judgments, but one with Hemscott data from Stock Central and the other with S&P data from Better Investing). As you will see, the different data sources make a big, big difference.
| Potash Corp (POT) | HenriR | Take Stock | Armin-1 | Armin-2 |
| Data | Hemscott | Hemscott | Hemscott | S&P |
| Date | 8-15-08 | 8-25-08 | 8-25-08 | same |
| Price | $169.81 | $180.29 | $177.54 | same |
| 52 High & Low Price | $241.62 & $76.41 | n/a | $241.62 & $82.76 | same |
| Sales Growth | 10.00% | 9.40% | 10.00% | same |
| EPS Growth | 15.00% | 9.40 initial -1.13% final | 15.00% | same |
| Project Growth from | Last Annual | Unknown | Last Quarter | same |
| High PE | 33.7 (ave hist High PE) | 22.7 | 25.7 (2003 & 2007 out) | 28.9 (same) |
| High Price | $230.50 | $72.84 | $234.10 | $369.10 |
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Value Line Estimated High Price = $355-535 as of 7-18-08 |
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| Low PE | 18.4 (ave hist Low PE) | 12.1 | 13.9 (2003 & 2007 out) | 15.3 (same) |
| Low Price | $73.20 (“other” option) | $42.11 | $47.30 (Low PE x Low EPS) | $97.20(same) |
| Upside/Down | 0.6 | Impossible to Calculate | 0.4 | 2.4 |
| Total Return | 7.0% | -16.4% | 6.6% | 16.3% |
| Buy Under | $112.53 | $36.74 | $94.00 | $165.18 |
| PTPM – 5 yr ave | 17.5% trend up | 17.5% trend n/a | 17.5% trend up | 17.9% trend up |
| ROE – 5 yr ave End Equity | 16.2% trend up | n/a | 16.2% trend up | 15.1% trend up |
| ROE – 5 yr ave Start Equity | 21.7% trend up | 21.7% trend n/a | 21.7% trend up | 20.3% trend up |
| Debt: Equity - 5 yr ave | -0- trend even | n/a | 48.6% trend down | 49.4% trend down |
| RV/PRV (with two outs) | 143.7/124.9 | n/a | 198.0/172.1 | 126.7/110.0 |
| RV/PRV (with no outs) | 143.7/124.9 | n/a | 150.2/130.6 | 96.6/83.8 |
| Quality | Not Rated | 3.2 (Unacceptable) | Not Rated | B |
Discussion:
- Henri’s SSG indicates a HOLD with an Upside/Downside Ratio of .6 and a measly Total Return of 7.0%. Even though her SSG does not signal SELL, better portfolio balance remains a good reason to sell some of the stock, especially if there is a replacement candidate that’s a better alternative.
- Henri chose to project future growth from the Last Year of annual data. Had she projected from the Last Quarter of data, a relatively small change, her Forecast High Price would have increased by a whopping 33%, from $230.50 to $307.00.
- She also chose to use the open-ended “other” option for her Forecast Low Price ($73.20) which is unusual in that it is higher than any of the other four standard Low Price options. It would be good practice to explain atypical decisions in the Toolkit’s “Notes” section which then could be exported in the ITK format.
- The two different data sources result in much different SSGs:
** When I used the same judgments for Armin-1 and Armin-2, I got a 6.6% Total Return with Hemscott data and 16.3% with S&P data; for the Upside/Downside Ratio, I got 0.4 with Hemscott and 2.4 with S&P.
** I eliminated 2003 & 2007 from my Forecast High and Low PEs and got 25.7 High with Hemscott data and 28.9 High with S&P. As a result, I got a $234.10 Forecast High Price with Hemscott and $369.10 with S&P, a significant difference.
** I don’t follow POT and I leave to those of you who do to offer an explanation as to what’s going on with the different data (VL data is also different). Because I did SSGs with Hemscott and S&P data, I realize that here is a situation where the choice of data makes an enormous difference. [ADD: Jim Thomas explained, in a comment, that much of the differemce in SSGs is due to the S&P data file containing one later quarter than the Hemscott data file.]
- When I did my SSGs, analyst estimates for long-term EPS were mixed and unreliable: FactSet CallStreet = 40.00% (1 analyst); First Call-Yahoo = 10.00%; Reuters via Morningstar = 40.00%; VL = 46.00% (40% Earnings Predictability); S&P = n/a; Zacks = 20.12% sales & EPS n/a.
- Take Stock estimated EPS at -1.13% for the next 5 years while I used 15.00% EPS, the same as Henri.
- All three SSGs with Hemscott data got a Forecast High Price well below the low end of VL’s estimated High Price of $355-535. Take Stock’s High Price of $72.84 in the next 5 years was an incredible $283 per share or 205% the BELOW the low end of VL’s estimate as well as 77% BELOW POT’s current price.
- Pre Tax Profit Margin is in the 40% range for the first two Qs of 2008, but averaged 29% throughout all of 2007 with either Hemscott or S&P data. Maybe 40% is atypical and, for sure, I would not use it in the Preferred Procedure which estimates EPS for the next 5 years.
- POT’s 3.2 Quality Rating from Take Stock is unacceptable and below the 3.4 minimum required to pass muster; 6.7 is desired and 10.0 is max. POT got a B for Quality from S&P where A+ is highest out of 8 ratings. Hemscott makes no Quality rating.
- Take Stock’s SSG is nuts: -1.13% estimated EPS; Forecast High Price of $72.84, some 77% BELOW POT’s current price; -16.4% Total Return; and an Upside-Downside Ratio that is impossible to calculate.